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The Flipping 50 Show

Podcast The Flipping 50 Show
Debra Atkinson
The podcast for women in menopause and beyond who want to change the way they age. Fitness, wellness, and health research put into practical tips you can use to...

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  • Is Red Light Therapy the Answer to Aches, Pains and More Movement?
    Red Light Therapy is not just for the rich and the pro-athlete any more! It’s a revolutionary tool for midlife women ready to take control of their health, vitality, and confidence. Whether it’s about reducing inflammation, relieving pain, or improving skin health, this science-backed therapy is changing the way we approach wellness.  This episode unpacks Red Light Therapy, what it is, how it works and whether it can work on your gut health, plantar fasciitis, knee pain and more.    My Guest: Forrest Smith grew up playing competitive sports in Atlanta and regularly participates in rugby matches and trains CrossFit, which ultimately led him to develop Kineon Lab’s Move+: a modular, targeted laser therapy device for neuromuscular pain and inflammation.   What is Red Light Therapy (RLT)? Through the science of photobiomodulation, RLT uses specific light wavelengths to boost cell repair, reduce inflammation, and promote healing—all without the need for medication. He highlights how red and infrared light work in the body to improve blood flow, release nitric oxide, and ease chronic inflammation. What are the benefits of Red Light Therapy? Pain Relief: Particularly for joint pain, osteoarthritis, and conditions like plantar fasciitis. Inflammation Reduction: Especially relevant for women in midlife dealing with hormonal changes, weight loss resistance, and systemic inflammation during perimenopause and menopause. Enhanced Recovery: Promoting healthy blood flow and supporting tissue repair. Gut Health and Mood: Can boost dopamine levels and improve mood, showcasing the gut-brain connection. Support for Autoimmune Conditions: Including asthma and multiple sclerosis, by targeting systemic inflammation. Hormonal Balance: Potential benefits for insulin resistance and thyroid health, with specific mention of Hashimoto’s and hypothyroidism. Who will benefit from Red Light Therapy? Women in midlife: Especially those dealing with inflammation, weight loss resistance, and hormonal changes during perimenopause and menopause. Chronic pain sufferers: Individuals with joint pain, osteoarthritis, plantar fasciitis, and other musculoskeletal issues. Those with autoimmune conditions: Including asthma and multiple sclerosis, as RLT may help reduce systemic inflammation. Individuals with gut health concerns: The therapy can boost dopamine levels and improve mood, linking to the gut-brain connection. People struggling with hormonal imbalances: Such as insulin resistance and thyroid issues, including Hashimoto’s and hypothyroidism. Athletes and active individuals: Seeking faster recovery and pain relief from injuries. Anyone avoiding pharmaceuticals: Looking for a natural approach to managing pain and inflammation. The Move+ Red Light Therapy The Move Plus is a wearable laser device developed by Forrest Smith and his team. It offers a more affordable option for clinical-grade laser therapy at home, priced under $500, compared to traditional laser devices that can cost $10,000 or more.   Key features of The Move+: Uses medical-grade lasers (not just LEDs) to deliver effective doses of light to the body. Designed with wearability and convenience in mind—Forrest even wears it around his neck during the interview. Helps with pain relief, inflammation reduction, and supporting recovery from injuries. Targets specific areas like the neck, gut, knees, and lower back, and can be used for systemic treatments (e.g., blood dosing through the neck). Backed by research and development, including collaboration with scientific advisors and medical professionals. Approved for travel, with FCC clearance, allowing users to take it on flights and use it while on the go. Questions We Answer in This Episode: How does red light therapy “work”? Could weight loss resistance and insulin resistance benefit from red light therapy?  Can you share success stories of how red light therapy has transformed lives?  What’s the best way to incorporate it into a healthy lifestyle? Should the treated area be active or at rest during use?  Can we easily travel with this?  What is the future of red light therapy and similar products? What sets the MOVE+ apart from other RLT devices? Connect with Forrest: Try to The MOVE - Enjoy $100 discount and FREE shipping during this first week of the podcast release!  Facebook Instagram YouTube   Other Episodes You Might Like: Previous Episode - If I Wanted to Reduce My Risk of Heart Disease Post Menopause Next Episode - 4 Exercise Mistakes Hijacking Your Menopause Fitness (and how to fix them) More Like This – Hype or Hip? | Sauna Benefits During Menopause   Resources: Flipping 50 Membership  Flipping 50 STRONGER 12-week program  The What, Why, and When of PRP and Shockwave Therapy  
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  • If I Wanted to Reduce My Risk of Heart Disease Post Menopause
    Women collectively “Catch Up” to men in their risk by age 60, largely because of the loss of estrogen. Based on studies from the American College of Cardiology’s Annual Scientific Session (April 2024) and the American Heart Association (2013, 2023). Changes in blood pressure, cholesterol, and visceral belly fat all seem to be a part of the menopause transition for many women. Women spend 40% or more of their lives post-menopause, that’s a health risk if left unchecked. Women who have an early menopause, have even more time in their lives in post menopause. Many women are advised or think about weight loss, stress reduction. Very few women think about heart health risk and muscle loss. Yet, to define cardiovascular fitness is to talk about VO2 max. VO2 max measures oxygen consumption capacity or liters of oxygen the body consumes during exercise, expressed in ml/kg/min. For every 1 liter of oxygen consumed roughly 5 kcals are burned. Two components of VO2: The delivery of oxygen The extraction of oxygen from the tissues Heart health CAN decline rapidly after menopause… All statistics are based on historically what’s been true… and we sometimes forget that if we choose not to participate in the same habits of past generations we don’t have to get the same results. If you lose muscle, you lose VO2. If you lose VO2, you die tired, younger, sicker and fatter. Replacing the overemphasis on cardiovascular exercise which seems to be the first go-to for women, trainers, and physicians alike, with an equal emphasis on muscle is the first step. BUT.. that negates the fact that.. muscle-building exercise improves blood sugar levels, increase strength, stamina, power to inspire and motivate greater activity Training Plan to Avoid Risk of Heart Disease Post Menopause We also train wrong for women in midlife. Highs and lows are best for women midlife. Moderate-intensity exercise, a go-to for many women since the 80s, is actually an energy drain. Instead of reducing stress, it spikes cortisol, making fat loss and recovery harder. High intensity to toleration during perimenopause, not all women tolerate when hormones are doing the greatest fluctuation. There’s a dance between the muscle, heart, bone benefits and the adrenals/cortisol response that has to be done. Post menopause hormones have stabilized and a woman is likely to tolerate more high intensity- not longer but with greater frequency from say 2 times a week to up to 4. This will help overcome the loss of fast twitch muscle fibers lost more quickly with age and without fast or powerful movements. The significant boost of growth hormone and testosterone that occurs with true high intensity exercise provides mitigation of cortisol. Let’s review this again. Moderate exercise can occur for 3 reasons: Intentionally you unknowingly are trying to hit moderate level exercise You attend boot camp type classes that never allow complete recovery. They feel hard and high intensity for long periods of time, but in actuality, you’re not reaching your peak capacity. You start out going at a low level but you either push it because you feel good or you go longer because it feels good, both result in a cardiac drift into the “no benefits zone” of moderate intensity exercise. What’s the answer? Your midlife workout formula should look like this: 80% Low Intensity (walking, recovery movement) (short, powerful bursts—literally minutes a week!) 10% Do-What-You-Love (hikes, long rides—just earn them!) The Strength You Need to Avoid Risk of Heart Disease Post Menopause A 2020 study found that skeletal muscle mass is a good predictor of cardiovascular disease risk in people over 45 without existing heart conditions. Another study found that lower skeletal muscle mass was associated with an increased risk of cardiovascular factors. Based on studies from Journal of Occupational and Environmental Medicine (2020), Individuals with high muscle mass and low fat mass have the lowest mortality rate. Increase muscle protein synthesis. Lift to muscle fatigue is often the advice given. For those that can’t lift heavy it should be known that muscle strength, and more muscle endurance as repetitions go higher than 15 or 20 range, can be gained.  Yet, heavy weights increase strength and power more than light weights. Anabolic resistance comes into play. Women post menopause need increased volume of sets.. and almost always have to work around aging joints and previous injuries. “The older you get, the more you are fighting for anabolic resistance.” VO2 max is closely associated with heart disease risk. The higher your VO2 the less your likelihood of dying from all-cause mortality. Moving from a low VO2 max to moderate VO2 decreases heart disease risk the most. Moving from already moderate to high or high to elite, is a benefit but doesn’t return the same level of rewards. One of the MOST OVERLOOKED ways of maintaining and gaining VO2 max for adults over 40 is improving muscle health. Get more muscle or get stronger. The MOST EFFICIENT way of increasing VO2 max for women over 40 from cardiovascular exercise is HIIT. Yet, HIIT workouts really only occur in a small percentage of exercise time weekly. The foundation of fitness is low intensity movement. That is to go for walks, daily. And… TRUE HIIT is not what most women are doing. If you have to ask if it’s HIIT, it’s not. If you don’t get breathless… and then recover completely between intervals? It is not HIIT. Your Fitness Level to Avoid Risk of Heart Disease Post Menopause Find your fitness level now. Commit to training and then measure again later. We’re implementing a community-wide home assessment bundle. Join us? Details in this podcast about how to get started with us or do this on your own with the testing, interpretations and videos explaining how. Measure what matters. Unfortunately, we for too long have judged fitness by looks. If you look slim, or buff, you must be fit. If you’re thin you don’t need to exercise. We’ve spent decades perpetuating this type of thinking. You’re missing the point… and you may need a good look at the book by Jamie Seaman. Dr Fit and Fabulous. Thanksgiving dinner in the early 2000s. One of my brothers had just recovered from an incident where we thought he might not recover from a rare autoimmune disease. Several months of hospitalization and rehab, surgeries, steroids. I, as the resident fitness member of the family, was someone to either be asked or avoided depending on who you were. Somehow the conversation got to weight training and I asked Jon if he was weight training? The connection for me, obvious that he needed to offset his muscle loss, bone deterioration from the needed steroids. My mother answered first. Why? He looks great, why does he need to exercise? The table was quiet for a moment with all eyes on me. Would I take this bait… or roll my eyes and find a reason to go back to the kitchen? In the end, I did the latter, but that moment wasn’t one for my family, it was representative of many - not just my mom’s generation - that we exercise to fix something we don’t exercise to enhance something or benefit like a vitamin. Back to HIIT to Avoid Risk of Heart Disease Post Menopause For women in midlife.. this can help AVOID the increase in cortisol that occurs at moderate intensity zones maintained for too long. This Middle or moderate zone 3 is best referred to as “no benefits zone” because the ROI for this zone is so low. In lower level exercise, you get the big benefit from a lower level exercise that is under the threshold where cortisol elevates negatively. It’s also easy and almost anyone can do it. In High Intensity Interval Training, you get the big cardiovascular benefit of raising the ceiling on your fitness level by exercising at your highest intensities for short bursts that - when alternated with complete recovery  - also don’t negatively cause a negative cortisol and insulin response. The seduction of HIIT has always been that the return on investment of time is greater. The same fitness level that might be achieved over weeks or months is often cut in at least half or from minutes investment over 2 weeks vs hours over 2 weeks from lower levels of exercise. This is where the study of protocols gets important if you want a rapid return on investment of time. You also have to be in good enough physical condition to benefit from these. For anyone listening who may have adrenal insufficiency, or chronic fatigue, you would not only not benefit from HIIT protocols at this moment, you would potentially find yourself worse. Timing matters. Late day high intensity exercise begs the body already lower in cortisol for the day, to convert something into the fuel that cortisol provides. [Cortisol is a swinger… from stress to energy. It’s actually one and the same. The brief adrenaline rush you feel -and need- in emergency situations whether to rapidly swerve to avoid an accident, or to hit ice and right yourself unharmed - is thanks to cortisol. But so is the ability to pull yourself up on that pull up bar when yourself is whispering to herself, “fight!” Or run those 4-6 interval sprints.] That cortisol gets made. Your body will see too it. But then you’ve also got less progesterone for sleep potentially because that’s been converted to cortisol. You may not get enough post exercise nutrition to avoid muscle breakdown after. Women need more and they need it sooner than men do after exercise. Wait- you might be saying, how did we get here? We were talking about heart health. But your muscles are directly related to your heart health. And too many women are missing it. Resources: Flipping50 Membership:https://www.flippingfifty.com/cafe Other Podcasts You Might Like: 8 Ways to Make Walking in Menopause MORE Beneficial:https://www.flippingfifty.com/walking-in-menopause What are Heart Rate Zones and How are They Helpful Over 50?https://www.flippingfifty.com/heart-rate-zones
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  • Better Strength and Metabolism in Midlife Through More Rest and Recovery
    Building strength and metabolism in midlife is not hard. It’s just not easy to follow data and not emotion. This episode goes beyond sets and reps to uncover why muscle maintenance and metabolic health hinge on listening to both science and emotions. Discover how prioritizing recovery can unlock better strength and metabolism in midlife. My Guest: Ben Brown, owner of Body Systems, empowers clients worldwide with Pure Science, Proven Results™ Coaching Process, a science-backed approach to health freedom. With advanced degrees in Strength and Conditioning and Clinical Nutrition, he blends data, behavior change, and coaching to deliver sustainable results. Ben’s mission is to help clients align their goals with lasting strength, balance, and vitality. Questions We Answer in This Episode: What is the importance of maintaining/improving muscle mass for women in midlife? [00:09:50] How metabolism impacts fat loss and why so many midlife women struggle with metabolism [00:20:00] How to increase metabolism in midlife? [00:20:50] The shocking truth about using emotions to make decisions [00:28:50] Why data over emotions and how to use data to make informed decisions? [00:29:20] Why injuries can be great opportunities to get stronger in other areas, NOT excuses to "Rest"? [00:33:10] How and when to rest? Let’s talk about all the places rest and recovery come into play. [00:21:40] Connect with Benjamin:https://bodysystems.com/ On Social: Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/benjamin.brown.146/ Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/bodysystemscoaching/ YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@bodysystemscoaching Other Episodes You Might Like: 2 Big Obstacles to Gaining Lean Muscle and Fat Loss After 40:https://www.flippingfifty.com/fat-loss-after-40/ Lean Muscle in Menopause: 7 Supplements I Use:https://www.flippingfifty.com/lean-muscle-in-menopause/ Muscle and Body Composition in Menopause:https://www.flippingfifty.com/muscle-and-body-composition-in-menopause/ Resources: Flipping 50 Membership:https://www.flippingfifty.com/cafe Flipping 50 STRONGER 12-week program:https://www.flippingfifty.com/getstronger Discovery Call with Debra:https://www.flippingfifty.com/wellness-coaching-for-life/
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  • 8 Ways to Make Walking in Menopause MORE Beneficial
    Walking in menopause isn’t just exercise — it’s your secret sauce for boosting body and mind! With a few fun tweaks, make every step turn into a memory-boosting, fat-burning powerhouse. Slip on those sneakers. Tune in while taking a walk! This episode is all about making walking in menopause more beneficial! Walking 40 minutes three times a week increases Hippocampus(memory central). A 2011 study on older adults at the University of Colorado, published in the Journal Neuroimage, proved this! The hidden gem – you can walk at any pace you like. There’s no minimum exertion level for this to happen. Walk short vs long So much research I’ve shared previously showed that intermittent breaks really matter more.  Breaking up sedentary time with 2-5 minute movement breaks reduced post-meal blood sugar spikes by 17%. Walk after meals 10 minute walks after meals had a more positive impact than a single long walk. Especially when it comes to blood sugar, belly fat and insulin resistance, more studies show! And yes, after is better than before. But if you’re debating between before or not at all, yes go! You will make walking in menopause more beneficial this way by directly supporting blood sugar balance and combating insulin resistance. Go a different route or backwards Dr Ellen Langer, the Mother of Mindfulness, was the first female professor at Harvard and she’s done some notable research in aging, mindset, and placebo. She shared the idea of creating habits – have us all operating automatically. Instead, she said the secret is noticing. Truly being mindful. More Fun Ways to Make Walking in Menopause a Total Game-Changer Walk and talk (therapists now walk) Need a little therapy? If not with an actual therapist but a friend. There’s science to show the combination of walking outdoors (possibly even at a track) and talking is beneficial. Throw into the mix sunshine and you have three powerful serotonin producers, for a feel good session to rival antidepressant and anxiety meds. I’ve been known to take my phone and call a friend and talk through a 45 minute walk when life gets crazy. Amplify the learning opportunity Students who learn best, do. Learning any material while moving can boost your retention of it. The trick is to find activity and content you can focus on. Walking makes it easy and listening to a podcast that's educating you - whether on the benefits of walking (this is truly meta if you’re walking right now) or you’re learning about how to organize your closet or why essential amino acids are important. Students who move retain up to 76% compared to 37% while sitting. Weighted vest Using a weighted vest can increase the metabolic costs, relative exercise intensity, and loading of the skeletal system during walking. A study of trail runners concluded that between 5 and 10% the physiological and mechanical changes were significant. Meaning that at 10% additional load, there could be a considerable amount more stress on your system and your mechanics may also be altered. If you weigh 140 lbs and are using a weighted vest, you might be best starting for short periods of time with between 7 and 14 lbs, being careful not to do much time with 14 lbs until well adapted. And Finally—The 8th Way To Make Walking In Menopause More Beneficial Add intervals Do this last one with conscious planning. It’s not always “more is better.” Many midlife and older women were born into the “harder or more is better” thinking. It can be hard to lose this. But if you never go easy, you’re fooling yourself to think your “hard” effort is actually your capacity. To make walking more beneficial in menopause you’ll want it all: short and moderate and longer walks. You’ll want brisk and leisurely paced walks. But at the core of the majority of benefits from walking is just do it, daily, for a cumulative effect of movement that occurs several times a day. Are you interested in a virtual training that accumulates in a virtual “event”? Maybe a Flipping 50 walk on the same day, in different parts of the world. We’d love to hear your thoughts on Flipping 50 Facebook Group. Resources: Flipping50 Membership: https://www.flippingfifty.com/cafe Glucose Monitor: https://www.flippingfifty.com/myglucose Other Podcasts You Might Like: The Effects of Walking on Health:https://www.flippingfifty.com/walking Best Walking Tips to Help You Ditch Stress and Lose Weight:https://www.flippingfifty.com/walking-tips 21 Walking Tips:https://www.flippingfifty.com/walking-tips-2 Power of Walking:https://www.flippingfifty.com/power-of-walking 5 Walking Workouts You’ll Run to for Better Results:https://www.flippingfifty.com/walking-workouts 7 Walking Mistakes that Prevent Weight Loss After 50:https://www.flippingfifty.com/walking-mistakes Should You Hold Weights While You Walk?:  https://www.flippingfifty.com/walking-with-weights Take a Walk with Kathy Eklund:https://www.flippingfifty.com/take-a-walk Walking off Weight in Menopause:https://www.flippingfifty.com/walking-off-weight References: Mendez Colmenares A, Voss MW, Fanning J, Salerno EA, Gothe NP, Thomas ML, McAuley E, Kramer AF, Burzynska AZ. White matter plasticity in healthy older adults: The effects of aerobic exercise. Neuroimage. 2021 Oct 1;239:118305. doi: 10.1016/j.neuroimage.2021.118305. Epub 2021 Jun 24. PMID: 34174392. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.neuroimage.2021.118305 Ferrer, M. E., & Laughlin, D. D. (2017). Increasing College Students’ Engagement and Physical Activity with Classroom Brain Breaks: Editor: Ferman Konukman. Journal of Physical Education, Recreation & Dance, 88(3), 53–56. https://doi.org/10.1080/07303084.2017.1260945 Engeroff T, Groneberg DA, Wilke J. After Dinner Rest a While, After Supper Walk a Mile? A Systematic Review with Meta-analysis on the Acute Postprandial Glycemic Response to Exercise Before and After Meal Ingestion in Healthy Subjects and Patients with Impaired Glucose Tolerance. Sports Med. 2023 Apr;53(4):849-869. doi: 10.1007/s40279-022-01808-7. Epub 2023 Jan 30. PMID: 36715875; PMCID: PMC10036272. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40279-022-01808-7
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  • Metabolic Health During Menopause and Beyond
    Of the many changes that occur midlife, metabolic health during menopause may be too low on your list. We think about the changes we experience: the brain fog, the change in our waking energy, the belly fat or lack of muscle tone. Know the importance of metabolic health and the need to understand what’s going on. The Flipping 50 STRONGER series is now or soon will be open. For a coach experienced in supporting your needs start to end, join this program or the notifications list. My Guest: Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo, founder of the Institute of Nutritional Endocrinology, transforms the healthcare system by using the wisdom of nature combined with modern scientific research to restore balance. Dr. Ritamarie is a licensed chiropractor with certifications in Acupuncture, Nutrition, Herbal Medicine, and HeartMath®. Also a master at using palate-pleasing, whole fresh food as medicine. She’s a bestselling author, speaker, and podcast host with 30+ years of clinical expertise. Questions We Answer in This Episode: What is metabolic health?[00:04:20] What's the criteria for being metabolically well?[00:15:17] Why are so many people metabolically unhealthy?[00:11:37] What hormones are involved?[00:18:34] What is metabolic health's relationship to menopause?[00:23:49] How does exercise fit in?[00:26:41] Connect with Dr Ritamarie:https://www.FastingWhileFeasting.com On Social: Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/DrRitamarieLoscalzo Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/drritamarie/ Youtube:https://www.youtube.com/user/drritamarie Other Episodes You Might Like: The ABCs of Metabolic Mastery for Midlife Women:https://www.flippingfifty.com/metabolic-mastery/ Mastering Midlife Metabolism: The Key to Fat Loss After 45:https://www.flippingfifty.com/key-to-fat-loss-after-45/ How to Boost Your Metabolism in Midlife the Non-Dieting Way:https://www.flippingfifty.com/boost-your-metabolism-in-midlife/ Resources: Flipping 50 STRONGER 12-week program:https://www.flippingfifty.com/getstronger Flipping 50 5-Day Flip:https://www.flippingfifty.com
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