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What does it really take to visit Tibet, and how can you have an authentic experience while you're there?
My guest today is Robert Kelly, a seasoned travel writer who has co-authored multiple editions of Lonely Planet’s Tibet guidebook.
With years of firsthand experience in Tibet and its surrounding regions, Robert shares his insights on what makes Tibet an unforgettable travel experience as we explore its culture, landscapes, and historical complexities.
Robert shares what travelers need to know: how to navigate the permit system, the best ways to experience Tibetan culture, and why some areas are easier to visit than others. We also talk about what it’s like to trek around Mount Kailash, the role of monasteries in Tibetan life, and how to respectfully connect with locals.
If you could visit Tibet, what would be the first thing you’d want to experience? I'd love to hear your thoughts, and I hope you’ll share them by sending me an audio message.
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Why Tibet is a must-visit destination and why you should go sooner rather than later
What it’s like to be a Lonely Planet guidebook writer for Tibet
How Tibet’s history with China has shaped travel in the region
The deep spiritual traditions of Tibet, from pilgrimage routes to sacred monasteries
What it’s like to trek around Mount Kailash and how to prepare for the journey
Tips for independent travelers who want an authentic experience
Hidden gems outside the Tibetan Autonomous Region where you can experience Tibetan culture more freely
How local Tibetans perceive travelers and how to make meaningful connections
What to pack for high-altitude trekking and why being prepared is crucial
And so much more
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1:01:02
How to Win at Travel with “The Points Guy” Brian Kelly
Are you leaving free travel on the table?
Brian Kelly, aka The Points Guy, is one of the world’s leading experts on travel and loyalty programs. What started as a blog in 2010 has become a massive platform helping millions of travelers maximize rewards and travel smarter.
In his new book How to Win at Travel, Brian shares everything he’s learned about the game of travel, from leveraging airline and credit card points to planning your dream itinerary so you can experience the world in ways you never thought possible.
Brian joins me to talk about why playing the points game is about more than just free flights—it’s a strategy for life. He also shares how he turned a side hustle into a travel empire and opens up about his experience growing up in a small town and coming out after college.
Whether you're a travel hacking pro or just getting started, this episode will reframe how you think about points and miles as a financial tool. Brian breaks it all down in a way that makes sense, showing you how to turn travel into a strategic investment while revealing lesser-known perks and insider tips that will allow you to travel smarter and truly win at travel.
PLUS, you’re going to hear the 5th and final installment of our Five Best Road Trips in the USA mini-series. I saved the best for last!
What’s your biggest travel hack or points win? I'd love to hear about it, and I hope you’ll share by sending me an audio message.
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Why being authentic will always reign supreme in life and business
Why Brian is passionate about Peace Jam and giving back through travel
Why points are not only an extremely powerful tool but an important safety net
The biggest mistakes people make with points and miles and how to avoid wasting your rewards
How to reframe stressful travel with a “karma points” mindset and have better experiences
The four main loyalty program structures and how understanding them can help you redeem points for maximum value
The one travel insurance mistake that could cost you big time
Hidden gem destinations you should add to your bucket list
And so much more
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1:25:24
Discovering The Hidden Europe with Francis Tapon
Why should you explore Eastern Europe?
Francis Tapon is a global nomad and author of Hike Your Own Hike and The Hidden Europe. With an inspiring travel resume, he has traveled to 125 countries, has walked across America four times, Spain twice, and Madagascar once (at the time of this recording). From 2013 to 2018, he even traveled nonstop overland to all 54 African countries.
Francis shares his journey traveling through Eastern Europe, discussing what he learned about the region, the people, and the misconceptions many have about this part of the world. He shares his philosophy of “wander learning,” explains why he believes slow travel is the future, and even gives us a sneak peek into his epic five-year overland journey across Africa.
This episode will encourage you to go beyond the typical tourist hotspots to truly experience a place. Francis shares insights into how to travel deeply, meet locals, and gain a richer understanding of different cultures. He also opens up about how he financially sustains his travels, his approach to living with less, and why investing unconventionally has helped him maintain a life of adventure.
Plus, if you’re curious about long-distance hiking, you won’t want to miss his take on hiking all three of America’s major trails and the crazy adventure he took on the Continental Divide Trail.
What’s a place you’ve visited that completely changed your perspective? I'd love to hear about it, and I hope you’ll share by sending me an audio message.
*This is a previously released episode from the archives! Zero To Travel interviews are timeless, offering valuable insight whenever you listen.
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How Francis hiked the three longest trails in the U.S. and what he learned from each
Why taking a contrarian approach to money and investing can fuel a life of travel
Why Francis defines Eastern Europe differently than most people (and why that matters)
The biggest misconceptions about Eastern Europe
The best ways to meet locals and truly experience a destination
How slow travel can lead to deeper, more meaningful experiences
How he managed to travel through all 54 African countries over five years
How Francis approaches writing about his travels and his latest project, Unseen Africa
What destinations you should visit now
And so much more
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1:31:01
Beyond the Summit: Climbing Mt. Everest, Filming at 29,000 Feet, a Cultural Journey through Nepal, and Taking Your Childhood Dreams to Heart with Alex Harz
What does it take to turn a childhood dream into reality, even when it seems impossible?
Alex Harz is an adventurer, filmmaker, and storyteller who took his dream of climbing Mount Everest and turned it into a powerful multimedia project, The Quest: Everest. With a background in acting, business, and international travel, Alex combined his skills to document the Everest experience like never before, bringing audiences up the mountain with him through both a documentary film and an immersive VR experience. But his journey was about much more than just summiting Everest; it was about embracing challenge, cultural connection, and pushing human limits.
In this episode, Alex shares the incredible story behind his ascent of Mount Everest, providing an unfiltered look at what it takes to push beyond your limits and climb the world’s highest peak.
From his rigorous training and years of preparation to the emotional and spiritual impact of the journey, Alex talks about the intense preparation, the surreal beauty of the Himalayas, and the life-and-death decisions climbers face on the mountain. Beyond the climb itself, we dive into the deeper meaning of pursuing a lifelong dream and how the people of Nepal profoundly shaped his journey.
What is your “personal Everest?” I'd love to hear about it, and I hope you’ll share by sending me an audio message.
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The random moment that inspired Alex to embrace his childhood dream after 15 years
How he went from zero mountaineering experience to climbing the world’s tallest peak
The extreme training regimen required to prepare for Everest
What it’s like to experience Everest Base Camp’s international tent city
The spiritual side of Everest and how Nepalese culture shaped his journey
The life-or-death decisions climbers must make on the mountain
Why physical fitness alone won’t get you to the summit
The ethical questions surrounding Everest tourism and the role of Sherpas
How witnessing death on Everest changed his perspectives
The challenges of documenting a high-altitude expedition and bringing the story to life
The moment Alex stood at the top of the world and what it meant to him
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1:44:03
The JOMO Revolution, Exciting New Visa Announcement, Is This the Best Way to Determine Your Next Destination? (February 2025 Recap)
I’m bringing you some of the best insights from the past month’s newsletter—curated travel tips, trends, and ideas that deserve a deeper dive. If you’ve ever felt the sting of travel FOMO, wondered about the latest digital nomad visas, or wanted a better way to pick your next destination without overcomplicating it, this one’s for you.
You’ll get my take on the antidote to travel FOMO that might change your mindset, what this new visa to an exciting destination means for remote workers, and why tourist taxes are becoming more common (and who it really impacts).
You’ll also learn a simple strategy for choosing your next destination, hear about my personal mantra for the year and how it’s influencing my mindset and travels for 2025, and I’ll leave you with a powerful question to inspire your next move.
What’s your phrase for the year? I'd love to hear about it, and I hope you’ll share what it means to you by sending me an audio message.
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✈️ The Zero To Travel Podcast has been downloaded 12+ million times and named a "Best Travel Podcast" by The Washington Post, Travel + Leisure, The Telegraph, and Forbes.
Packed with life-changing perspectives, inspiration, and practical advice for everyone from travel newbies to nomads, this podcast will give you everything you need to travel the world on your terms, regardless of your situation or experience. Welcome to our amazing global listening community!
Since 2013, "Travel Ambassador" Jason Moore from zerototravel.com has been picking the brains of adventurous people living an unconventional life on the road so you can discover new ways to travel endlessly.
Along the way, you'll get actionable advice and key resources that will improve your life AND help you travel more as we get down and dirty on topics like; starting and running an online business from anywhere, the best off-the-beaten-path destinations to visit, travel and work opportunities, gutsy budget travel strategies, surprising ways to earn free travel, the digital nomad life, unconventional travel based lifestyles, fun travel jobs, how to plan epic adventures, backpacking, remote work, how to take a gap year or a career break, 4-hour work week inspired topics, ex-pat life, slow travel, travel hacking, sustainable travel, human-powered adventures, trips worth planning, and everything in between.
Host Bio: Jason wandered the planet as a nomad for over a decade and spent 15+ years on the road as a tour manager in events/music, a seasonal adventure travel tour guide, and a digital nomad. Originally from the USA, he is now a dual citizen (Norway/USA) based in Oslo. He is obsessed with helping YOU explore our planet on your terms.
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