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The MAD Podcast with Matt Turck

Podcast The MAD Podcast with Matt Turck
Matt Turck
The MAD Podcast with Matt Turck, is a series of conversations with leaders from across the Machine Learning, AI, & Data landscape hosted by leading AI & data in...

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  • Top AI Researcher on GPT 4.5, DeepSeek and Agentic RAG | Douwe Kiela, CEO, Contextual AI
    Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG) has become a dominant architecture in modern AI deployments, and in this episode, we sit down with Douwe Kiela, who co-authored the original RAG paper in 2020. Douwe is now the founder and CEO of Contextual AI, a startup focusing on helping enterprises deploy RAG as an agentic system. We start the conversation with Douwe's thoughts on the very latest advancements in Generative AI, including GPT 4.5, DeepSeek and the exciting paradigm shift towards test time compute, as well as the US-China rivalry in AI. We then dive into RAG: definition, origin story and core architecture. Douwe explains the evolution of RAG into RAG 2.0 and Agentic RAG, emphasizing the importance of self-learning systems over individual models and the role of synthetic data. We close with the challenges and opportunities of deploying AI in real-world enterprise, discussing the balance between accuracy and the inherent inaccuracies of AI systems.Contextual AIWebsite - https://contextual.aiX/Twitter - https://x.com/ContextualAIDouwe KielaLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/douwekielaX/Twitter - https://x.com/douwekielaFIRSTMARKWebsite - https://firstmark.comX/Twitter - https://twitter.com/FirstMarkCapMatt Turck (Managing Director)LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/turck/X/Twitter - https://twitter.com/mattturck(00:00) Intro(01:57) Thoughts on the latest AI models: GPT-4.5, Sonnet 3.7, Grok 3(04:50) The test time compute paradigm shift(06:47) Unsupervised learning vs reasoning: a false dichotomy(07:30) The significance of DeepSeek(10:29) USA vs. China: is the AI war overblown?(12:19) Controlling AI hallucinations at the model level(13:51) RAG: definition and origin story(18:46) Why the Transformers paper initially felt underwhelming(20:41) The core architecture of RAG(26:06) RAG vs. fine-tuning vs. long context windows(30:53) RAG 2.0: Thinking in systems and not models(31:28) Data extraction and data curation for RAG(35:59) Contextual Language Models (CLMs)(38:04) Finetuning and alignment techniques: GRIT, KTO, LENS(40:40) Agentic RAG(41:36) General vs. specialized RAG agents(44:35) Synthetic data in AI(45:51) Deploying AI in the enterprise(48:07) How tolerant are enterprises to AI hallucinations?(49:35) The future of Contextual AI
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  • Empowering Millions of Creators with AI Video Editing | Gaurav Misra, CEO, Captions
    In this episode, we dive into how AI is transforming video editing with Gaurav Misra, the CEO of Captions. Launched in New York in 2021, Captions already empowers over 10 million creators worldwide, leveraging AI to make video production as simple as clicking a button.Discover the strategic framework that led to the inception of Captions, and learn how the founders identified societal changes and technological advancements to build a groundbreaking company. We explore the challenges and opportunities of building an AI product for video editing, including how Captions is outpacing traditional content production workflows.Gaurav shares insights into the future of video editing, the role of AI in democratizing video production, and the unique approach Captions takes to differentiate itself from industry giants like Adobe and Capcut. CaptionsWebsite - https://www.captions.aiX/Twitter - https://x.com/getcaptionsappGaurav MisraLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/gamisra1X/Twitter - https://x.com/gmharharFIRSTMARKWebsite - https://firstmark.comX/Twitter - https://twitter.com/FirstMarkCapMatt Turck (Managing Director)LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/turck/X/Twitter - https://twitter.com/mattturck(00:00) Intro(01:30) What is Captions?(03:43) How did Captions start?(08:25) The strategy behind launching Captions(12:32) How is Captions different from other editing tools?(14:13) How does it compare to CapCut?(18:22) Who is the typical Captions user?(20:13) Why ‘Captions’?(23:47) Captions’ product suite for production and editing(26:37) AI models powering Captions(36:22) AI lipsync(38:49) Personalized fine-tuned models for creators?(39:38) Building models vs. building wrappers(43:09) Cloud AI vs. Local AI(45:19) Optimizing for low latency(48:07) AI/ML stack at Captions(51:10) “Hallucinations are a feature, not a bug”(53:19) Prompt engineering(54:12) Have we passed the uncanny valley for AI avatars?(01:01:47) The impact of deepfakes(01:04:33) CapCut ban and its effects(01:05:05) Evolving from paid to freemium(01:07:42) Building a company on foundation models(01:09:01) Running an AI company in New York
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  • Farewell, Chatbots: AI Agents Are Taking Over Customer Service | Mike Murchison, CEO, Ada
    AI customer service agents are quickly replacing the often clunky AI chatbots of years past, and revolutionizing how we all interact with customer service. In this episode, we dive into this rapid transformation with Mike Murchison, CEO of Ada, a fast-growing leader in the space.Mike shares how harnessing the power of several Generative AI models enables Ada to automate up to 83% of customer interactions, providing a seamless and empathetic service that rivals, and will soon surpass, human agents. We explore the challenges and triumphs of deploying AI in customer service in this new era, from the intricacies of model orchestration to the importance of resolution and empathy. Mike also teases the future of agentic AI in the enterprise, where AI agents collaborate across departments to innovate and improve products.AdaWebsite - https://www.ada.cxX/Twitter - https://x.com/ada_cxMike MurchisonLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikemurchisonX/Twitter - https://x.com/mimurchisonFIRSTMARKWebsite - https://firstmark.comX/Twitter - https://twitter.com/FirstMarkCapMatt Turck (Managing Director)LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/turck/X/Twitter - https://twitter.com/mattturck(00:00) Intro(02:27) Why is customer service a perfect use case for AI?(03:36) Why didn’t foundation models replace AI “thin wrappers” out of the box?(05:27) What is Ada?(10:41) Reasoning engine, model orchestration, instruction following, routing(15:45) Hybrid systems, finetuning, customization(18:28) Prompt engineering, observability, self-improvement(22:07) RAG (Retrieval-Augmented Generation) and AI as a judge(23:06) Guardrails and security(24:33) Should we expect perfection from AI?(26:14) Measuring “resolution”(29:29) What actions can Ada AI Agents take?(32:12) Authentication and personalization(35:09) Handoff vs human delegation(38:12) ACX (AI Customer Experience) and the future of customer service professionals(42:13) Leveraging analytics and customer support data(45:54) AI agents for cross-selling and upselling(48:25) Traditional AI chatbots vs the new generation of AI Agents(51:24) Emotion, empathy, personality(54:56) Transparency and AI improvement(57:58) Managing AI: the measure-coach-improve loop(1:00:15) Ada Voice and Email(1:06:25) Future predictions for AI(1:07:56) Multi-agent collaboration
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  • The AI Coding Agent Revolution, The Future of Software, Techno-Optimism | Amjad Masad, CEO, Replit
    Replit is one of the most visible and exciting companies reshaping how we approach software and application development in the Generative AI era. In this episode, we sit down with its CEO, Amjad Masad, for an in-depth discussion on all things AI, agents, and software. Amjad shares the journey of building Replit, from its humble beginnings as a student side project to becoming a major player in Generative AI today. We also discuss the challenges of launching a startup, the multiple attempts to get into Y Combinator, the pivotal moment when Paul Graham recognized Replit’s potential, and the early bet on integrating AI and machine learning into the core of Replit. Amjad dives into the evolving landscape of AI and machine learning, sharing how these technologies are reshaping software development. We explore the concept of coding agents and the impact of Replit’s latest innovation, Replit Agent, on the software creation process. Additionally, Amjad reflects on his time at Codecademy and Facebook, where he worked on groundbreaking projects like React Native, and how those experiences shaped his entrepreneurial journey. We end with Amjad's view on techno-optimism and his belief in an energized Silicon Valley. Replit Website - https://replit.com X/Twitter - https://x.com/Replit Amjad Masad LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amjadmasad X/Twitter - https://x.com/amasad FIRSTMARK Website - https://firstmark.com X/Twitter - https://twitter.com/FirstMarkCap Matt Turck (Managing Director) LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/turck/ X/Twitter - https://twitter.com/mattturck (00:00) Intro (01:36) The origins of Replit (15:54) Amjad’s decision to restart Replit (19:00) Joining Y Combinator (30:06) AI and ML at Replit (32:31) Explain Code (39:09) Replit Agent (52:10) Balancing usability for both developers and non-technical users (53:22) Sonnet 3.5 stack (58:43) The challenge of AI evaluation (01:00:02) ACI vs. HCI (01:05:02) Will AI replace software development? (01:10:15) If anyone can build an app with Replit, what’s the next bottleneck? (01:14:31) The future of SaaS in an AI-driven world (01:18:37) Why Amjad embraces techno-optimism (01:20:36) Defining civilizationism (01:23:11) Amjad’s perspective on government’s role
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  • Trino, Iceberg and the Battle for the Lakehouse | Justin Borgman, CEO, Starburst
    In this episode, we explore the cutting-edge world of data infrastructure with Justin Borgman, CEO of Starburst — a company transforming data analytics through its open-source project, Trino, and empowering industry giants like Netflix, Airbnb, and LinkedIn. Justin takes us through Starburst’s journey from a Yale University spin-out to a leading force in data innovation, discussing the shift from data lakes to lakehouses, the rise of open formats like Iceberg as the future of data storage, and the role of AI in modern data applications. We also dive into how Starburst is staying ahead by balancing on-prem and cloud offerings while emphasizing the value of optionality in a rapidly evolving, data-driven landscape. Starburst Data Website - https://www.starburst.io X/Twitter - https://x.com/starburstdata Justin Borgman LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinborgman X/Twitter - https://x.com/justinborgman FIRSTMARK Website - https://firstmark.com X/Twitter - https://twitter.com/FirstMarkCap Matt Turck (Managing Director) LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/turck/ X/Twitter - https://twitter.com/mattturck (00:00) Intro (01:32) What is Starburst? (02:32) Understanding the data layer (05:06) Justin Borgman’s story before Starburst (10:41) The evolution of Presto into Trino (13:20) Lakehouse vs. data lake vs. data warehouse (22:06) Why Starburst backed the lakehouse from the start (23:20) Starburst Enterprise (27:31) Cloud vs. on-prem (29:10) Starburst Galaxy (31:23) Dell Data Lakehouse (32:13) Starburst’s data architecture explained (38:30) The rise of data apps (38:54) Starburst AML (40:41) “We actually built the Galaxy twice” (43:13) Managing multiple products at scale (45:14) “We founded the company on the idea of optionality” (47:20) Iceberg (48:01) How open-source acquisitions work (51:39) Why Snowflake embraced Iceberg (53:15) Data mesh (55:31) AI at Starburst (57:16) Key takeaways from go-to-market strategies (01:01:18) Lessons from the Dell partnership (01:04:40) Predictions for 2025
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