A podcast all about the making and meaning of popular music. Musicologist Nate Sloan & songwriter Charlie Harding pull back the curtain on how pop hits work mag...
“The ‘Umbrella’ Effect: How Rihanna’s Breakout Hit Changed Pop Music Forever”
In 2007, a 19-year-old Barbadian pop singer released the lead single off her third album. By doing so, she didn't just give us a timeless, undeniable banger -- she changed the way pop music is made, and became the global superstar that we know Rihanna to be today. In this episode we go back in time to unearth the origins of "Umbrella," and how the song blossomed as a result of many shifting currents in the music industry, the democratization recording technology, and the persistence of Rihanna and her team to record the song instead of the artist for whom it was intended.
SONGS DISCUSSED
James Brown "Funky Drummer"
Funkadelic "Get Off Your Ass and Jam"
Soft Cell "Tainted Love"
N.W.A. "100 Miles and Runnin"
Mya "Case of the Ex (Whatcha Gonna Do?)"
Britney Spears featuring Madonna "Me Against the Music"
Nine Inch Nails "The Hand That Feeds"
Rihanna "Pon de Replay"
Rihanna "S.O.S."
Shakira "Hips Don't Lie"
Rihanna "Umbrella"
Justice "Stress"
Usher "Love in This Club"
Childish Gambino "Bonfire"
A$AP Rocky featuring Skepta "Praise the Lord (Da Shine)"
Asher Monroe "Synergy"
Justin Bieber & Lil Dicky "Running Over"
Sabrina Carpenter "Espresso"
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Learning to love: Tate McRae
Tate McRae's billions of streams and perfectly crafted hits can feel almost algorithmic, like an AI trained on 20 years of pop music. In anticipation of McRae’s third album So Close to What, out this Friday, we dissect McRae’s "SimplePop" formula, from her strategic, indescript vocal delivery to expert "vibe snatching" of Y2K sounds.
Through singles like "exes” and “sports car,” Charlie and Reanna trace her sonic lineage and discover why pop music needs artists who refine sounds as much as those who revolutionize them, seeing if there’s room to love her music in the process. This dancer-turned-singer might not be the next Britney Spears, but she could be this generation's Paula Abdul.
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Songs Discussed
Tate McRae - "sports car"
Tate McRae - "greedy"
Tate McRae - "you broke me first"
Tate McRae - "One Day"
Tate McRae - "exes"
Lisa - "Money"
Halsey - "100 Letters"
Cardi B - "I Like It"
Beyoncé - "Drunk in Love"
Ariana Grande - "7 Rings"
Ariana Grande - "thank u, next"
Tate McRae - "it's okay im okay"
Ying Yang Twins - "Wait (The Whisper Song)"
The Lonely Island - "Bing Bong Brothers"
The Pussycat Dolls - "Buttons"
Missy Elliott - "Get Your Freak On"
Missy Elliott feat. Ludacris - "Gossip Folks"
Britney Spears - "Toxic"
Britney Spears - "Gimme More"
Cassie - "Me & U"
Paula Abdul - "Straight Up"
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Does It Trance? The Weeknd & FKA Twigs
In last month's episode predicting the coming year in pop, one of the team's predictions was that trance music – the ethereal, dreamy subgenre of electronic music popular around the turn of the century – would make a comeback on the charts in 2025. And even though we're less than two months into the year, we're already seeing the tides of nostalgia bring this club-oriented music come back into fashion. This episode of Switched On Pop, Nate, Charlie, and Reanna take a look at trance music: where it came from, what it sounds like, and if we can hear it in two of the year's most anticipated records: The Weeknd's Hurry Up Tomorrow and FKA Twigs's EUSEXUA. Does it trance?
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Songs Discussed
KLF "What Time is Love? (Pure Trance Mix)"
Sven Väth "L'Esperanza"
Robert Miles "Children"
Paul van Dyk "For an Angel"
Ian Van Dahl "Castles in the Sky"
Tiësto "Adagio for Strings"
Darude "Sandstorm"
Charlotte De Witte "Universal Consciousness"
FKA twigs "Two Weeks"
FKA twigs "Cellophane"
FKA twigs "Tears in the Club" feat. The Weeknd
FKA twigs "EUSEXUA"
FKA twigs "Drums of Death"
FKA twigs "Perfect Stranger"
FKA twigs "Room of Fools"
FKA twigs "Childlike Things"
The Weeknd "Wake Me Up" feat. Justice
The Weeknd "Open Hearts"
The Weeknd "The Abyss" feat. Lana Del Rey
The Weeknd "Timeless" feat. Playboi Carti
The Weeknd "Give Me Mercy"
The Weeknd "Red Terror"
The Weeknd "Sao Paulo" feat. Anitta
The Weeknd "Reflections" feat. Travis Scott & Florence + The Machine
The Weeknd "Enjoy the Show"
The Weeknd "I Can't Wait to Get There"
The Weeknd "Hurry Up Tomorrow"
The Weeknd "Blinding Lights"
The Weeknd "Save Your Tears"
The Weeknd "Until I Bleed Out"
The Weeknd "Take My Breath"
The Weeknd "Out of Time"
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How Spotify hacked our ears (and our data)
Behind Spotify's promise of infinite music lies a carefully engineered system that shapes not just what we hear, but how music itself gets made. Journalist Liz Pelly's explosive new book "Mood Machine" rips away the curtain on streaming's biggest player, revealing how its algorithms and backroom deals dictate the soundtrack to our lives. With major labels controlling 70% of streams and Spotify commanding over 600 million users, the stakes couldn't be higher. As artists like Björk decry streaming as "the worst thing that's happened to musicians," Pelly uncovers the true cost of our perfect playlists - and what we're really sacrificing for the illusion of endless choice.
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25 Predictions for 2025: Grammys, J-pop, kazoos and more
2024 was an unpredictable year, and 2025 seems to be cut from the same cloth. So for this episode of Switched On Pop, Nate, Charlie, and Reanna look into the crystal ball of pop music to create a (playable) bingo card of predictions for the coming year – including AI songs on the Hot 100, a return of boy bands, and... kazoos? The Album of the Year race for this upcoming Grammys is similarly unpredictable, with a stacked nomination list including Grammy darlings Beyoncé and Billie as well as Gen-Z favorites like Charli and Chappell. The team takes a crack at guessing who will take home the award by debating the nominees, bracket-style.
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Songs discussed:
The Traveling Wilburys – Handle With Care
Ghostwriter – Heart On My Sleeve (ft. AI Drake and AI The Weeknd)
Songs from Silvio Berlusconi, Imelda Marcos, and Randi Zuckerberg
Chino Pacas, Drake, Fuerza Regida – Modo Capone
Elton John – Your Song
Luis Fonsi, Daddy Yankee – Despacito
Jack Black – Peaches
Tyla – Water
Rema, Selena Gomez – Calm Down
Bloodhound Gang – The Bad Touch
Megan thee Stallion, Yuki Chiba – Mamushi
Joan Osborne – One of Us
FKA Twigs – Eusexua
Katy Perry – Woman's World
David Bowie – Moonage Daydream
Jimi Hendrix – Crosstown Traffic
Jack Harlow – Lovin On Me
Billie Eilish – CHIHIRO
Billie Eilish – BIRDS OF A FEATHER
Charli XCX – guess
Charli XCX – 360
Charli XCX – i think about it all the time
Charli XCX – 365
Beyoncé – TEXAS HOLD 'EM
Beyoncé, Miley Cyrus – II MOST WANTED
Beyoncé – YA YA
Taylor Swift – I Can Do It With A Broken Heart
Sabrina Carpenter – Espresso
Chappell Roan – HOTTOGO
Chappell Roan – Pink Pony Club
Chappell Roan – Red Wine Supernova
Outkast – Hey Ya!
Andre 3000 – That Night In Hawaii When I Turned Into A Panther And Started Making These Low Register Purring Tones That I Couldn't Control ... Sh*t Was Wild
Andre 3000 – I swear, I Really Wanted To Make A "Rap" Album But This Is Literally The Way The Wind Blew Me This Time
Jacob Collier – 100,000 Voices
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A podcast all about the making and meaning of popular music. Musicologist Nate Sloan & songwriter Charlie Harding pull back the curtain on how pop hits work magic on our ears & our culture. From Vulture and the Vox Media Podcast Network.